Interesting! It makes more sense for the feds to just allow these groups to start trouble. They already know who's in what group, and how they communicate. That way, they can claim, correctly, that they are not "affiliated" with these groups. These people are not feds.
When some of the FBI brass were questioned by Jim Jordan, they would never say yes or no to ANYTHING. Similarly, they can use the excuse of an ongoing "investigation" to also not divulge any info. Because they are "investigating" these groups perpetually.
It appears to have worked quite well so far. But, I think they bluffed a little too soon, because none of these groups have done much as of late. The DHS warned everyone that white supremacist groups were going to burn down the country, but they didn't.
I knew something was up because the stupid stunts with torches didn't make any sense. If someone's really in a group like this it's doubtful that they would out themselves like that. They can't work well if they're known. It goes the same way with Antifa.
The problem is getting this information out to the public. Pretty much EVERYONE thinks these guys are feds.
I really enjoyed that. Great info, Scott. I figured the 14s represented the 14 Words, but that was so on the nose I thought there had to be fed involvement. Obviously, this ain't yer Daddy's KKK, or WAR. The connection to the Azovs is as interesting as it is terrifying, because, ultimately, it points to the involvement of very serious players and, I'm sure, gov higher up from at least two countries.
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It's the funding that will answer a lot of questions. incredibly well made website, graphics, logistics, posters, banners etc. it's not cheap. Proud Boys don't have that kinda money. PB's are pretty organic across the states and don't get to rent 15 passenger vans for rallys. Many don't bother with masks, b/c most are proud to say what they believe. I found one of their sites to kinda figure out what they believe. starofthenorth.club
Great work! I have so many questions about J6 and the “for hire” nature of some of these groups. It seems that financial gain and political interest must have intersections here.
You've earned a new subscriber, and perhaps less commonly for you, one that's a political lefty.
It's been a very strange 3 years. They've certainly opened my eyes, expanded my horizons, and even my circle of friends and acquaintances. I hope you won't "cancel" me because I'm a lefty - I promise to extend to you, the same courtesy.
What brought me here was finding a link to this post, way down in the comments, on the Twitter thread from the Proud Boys' beat-down - on what are either "Feds", or "Patriot Front" members - or perhaps some from column A, and some from Column B.
Why not...? We now know that Enrique Tarrio (whom I tend to 'lovingly' refer to as "Gusano Oreo"), and a bunch of the Oath Keepers and 3%ers were/are Federal Informants.
I got to the Twit-Storm, from this post by Professor Mark Crispin Miller, which includes a relevant link to a post from Kit Klarenberg and TheGrayzone.com . https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/patriot-front-unmasked-as-feds-pretending - I would recommend that you would read those posts/articles, and reconsider just a bit, your giving of a clean bill of health, and non-Fed bona fides to the "Patriot Front". The truth may encompass both possibilities, or some intricate interweaving of both - as OPERATION GLADIO did, in Europe. The Strategy of Tension - is a classic kind of Tradecraft, what in the Pro Wrestling world, they call 'a work', or 'Kayfabe'.
I also wanted to point out that you use the word "inadvertent" several times in this piece... If only that were so... Far from just being accidental "Blowback" - it's far more likely that the Intelligence Agencies which created this situation consider it not so much of "a bug", but more of "a feature". Project AERODYNAMIC and CAPACHO, "Prolog" and a whole long list of additional Cryptonyms - highlight that the US Government and NATO support for NAZIS and fascists, is much a piece of things like OPERATION OVERCAST and OPERATION PAPERCLIP. https://www.foiaresearch.net/project/aerodynamic
The ODESSA Network was likewise evidence of deliberate protection for, and collaboration with, actual Nazis, and not just in Ukraine. It goes back to the 1940's, and before that, those same Ukrainian fascists collaborated with the Third Reich, and German Intelligence, all through their history.
As with Covert US support for Al Qaeda and ISIS - it's a foreign gift, that keeps on giving, when those birds return home, to roost. See: "Vanilla ISIS", etc..
White people being demonized in their own countries and made minorities in the countries their ancestors founded caused this. White men are the MOST disenfranchised group all across the west. Is there a White caucus? Do we celebrate the achievements of White people? Any special federal holidays, documentaries, movies, tv stations just for them? No. White children are doing perp walks at school for the color of their skin.
Honestly, why are people so against White people regaining their identity? Every other group has one and is proud and celebrated for their affiliation.
It’s the hypocrisy of it all that is the death knell for a mixed society. The experiment failed and I support White men actively rebuilding their communities and keeping their spirits intact against all the hate they receive from the newcomers that have taken control of our civilizations.
These groups are a threat to America first movement? They are America.
I’m so glad this info is coming out. You are absolutely spot on. Scotty, dig into ‘the 14 words’. I wish I had more to share with you on that, but it’s definitely something. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if all of the words are carefully hidden in plain site in their manifesto. National Justice Party (NJP’s) is another one to look into. They are on tg. They have a media outlet of sorts. Thank you a God bless! 🙏❤️🇺🇸
Pretty poor article and poor "proof" of connection between these groups. This is mostly just rehashing old mainstream media talking points about Cville, etc. Now, maybe RAM and PF were somewhat connected as they share goals, but neither are connected to the CIA shill group azov.
Interesting! It makes more sense for the feds to just allow these groups to start trouble. They already know who's in what group, and how they communicate. That way, they can claim, correctly, that they are not "affiliated" with these groups. These people are not feds.
When some of the FBI brass were questioned by Jim Jordan, they would never say yes or no to ANYTHING. Similarly, they can use the excuse of an ongoing "investigation" to also not divulge any info. Because they are "investigating" these groups perpetually.
It appears to have worked quite well so far. But, I think they bluffed a little too soon, because none of these groups have done much as of late. The DHS warned everyone that white supremacist groups were going to burn down the country, but they didn't.
I knew something was up because the stupid stunts with torches didn't make any sense. If someone's really in a group like this it's doubtful that they would out themselves like that. They can't work well if they're known. It goes the same way with Antifa.
The problem is getting this information out to the public. Pretty much EVERYONE thinks these guys are feds.
Excellent reporting by the way!
I really enjoyed that. Great info, Scott. I figured the 14s represented the 14 Words, but that was so on the nose I thought there had to be fed involvement. Obviously, this ain't yer Daddy's KKK, or WAR. The connection to the Azovs is as interesting as it is terrifying, because, ultimately, it points to the involvement of very serious players and, I'm sure, gov higher up from at least two countries.
Great job Scott!! Very informative, keep it up!!
It's the funding that will answer a lot of questions. incredibly well made website, graphics, logistics, posters, banners etc. it's not cheap. Proud Boys don't have that kinda money. PB's are pretty organic across the states and don't get to rent 15 passenger vans for rallys. Many don't bother with masks, b/c most are proud to say what they believe. I found one of their sites to kinda figure out what they believe. starofthenorth.club
Great work! I have so many questions about J6 and the “for hire” nature of some of these groups. It seems that financial gain and political interest must have intersections here.
Nice work Scotty. Great read and interesting info.
Great stuff Scott! Keep up the good work, my friend.
Wow really detailed deep dive. Impressed @WokeSocieties, great job!
You've earned a new subscriber, and perhaps less commonly for you, one that's a political lefty.
It's been a very strange 3 years. They've certainly opened my eyes, expanded my horizons, and even my circle of friends and acquaintances. I hope you won't "cancel" me because I'm a lefty - I promise to extend to you, the same courtesy.
What brought me here was finding a link to this post, way down in the comments, on the Twitter thread from the Proud Boys' beat-down - on what are either "Feds", or "Patriot Front" members - or perhaps some from column A, and some from Column B.
Why not...? We now know that Enrique Tarrio (whom I tend to 'lovingly' refer to as "Gusano Oreo"), and a bunch of the Oath Keepers and 3%ers were/are Federal Informants.
I got to the Twit-Storm, from this post by Professor Mark Crispin Miller, which includes a relevant link to a post from Kit Klarenberg and TheGrayzone.com . https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/patriot-front-unmasked-as-feds-pretending - I would recommend that you would read those posts/articles, and reconsider just a bit, your giving of a clean bill of health, and non-Fed bona fides to the "Patriot Front". The truth may encompass both possibilities, or some intricate interweaving of both - as OPERATION GLADIO did, in Europe. The Strategy of Tension - is a classic kind of Tradecraft, what in the Pro Wrestling world, they call 'a work', or 'Kayfabe'.
I also wanted to point out that you use the word "inadvertent" several times in this piece... If only that were so... Far from just being accidental "Blowback" - it's far more likely that the Intelligence Agencies which created this situation consider it not so much of "a bug", but more of "a feature". Project AERODYNAMIC and CAPACHO, "Prolog" and a whole long list of additional Cryptonyms - highlight that the US Government and NATO support for NAZIS and fascists, is much a piece of things like OPERATION OVERCAST and OPERATION PAPERCLIP. https://www.foiaresearch.net/project/aerodynamic
The ODESSA Network was likewise evidence of deliberate protection for, and collaboration with, actual Nazis, and not just in Ukraine. It goes back to the 1940's, and before that, those same Ukrainian fascists collaborated with the Third Reich, and German Intelligence, all through their history.
An author whose rigorous expository work on this subject, should be better known, is Evan Reif. https://covertactionmagazine.com/author/evanrief/ - he has been fairly prolific over the last year or more. https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/06/09/how-pre-ww-ii-ukrainian-fascists-pioneered-brutal-terror-techniques-later-improved-by-cia-now-ironically-taught-to-descendants/ - is a fine example - but all of his work should be better known. After doing some reading and study - it's hard to use words like "inadvertently", when talking about the US, other NATO Governments, supporting Nazis in Ukraine.
As with Covert US support for Al Qaeda and ISIS - it's a foreign gift, that keeps on giving, when those birds return home, to roost. See: "Vanilla ISIS", etc..
Well that straightened out my thinking...well done.
White people being demonized in their own countries and made minorities in the countries their ancestors founded caused this. White men are the MOST disenfranchised group all across the west. Is there a White caucus? Do we celebrate the achievements of White people? Any special federal holidays, documentaries, movies, tv stations just for them? No. White children are doing perp walks at school for the color of their skin.
Honestly, why are people so against White people regaining their identity? Every other group has one and is proud and celebrated for their affiliation.
It’s the hypocrisy of it all that is the death knell for a mixed society. The experiment failed and I support White men actively rebuilding their communities and keeping their spirits intact against all the hate they receive from the newcomers that have taken control of our civilizations.
These groups are a threat to America first movement? They are America.
Good read, thank you Scott!💥💥💥👊🏽🇺🇲
I’m so glad this info is coming out. You are absolutely spot on. Scotty, dig into ‘the 14 words’. I wish I had more to share with you on that, but it’s definitely something. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if all of the words are carefully hidden in plain site in their manifesto. National Justice Party (NJP’s) is another one to look into. They are on tg. They have a media outlet of sorts. Thank you a God bless! 🙏❤️🇺🇸
Pretty poor article and poor "proof" of connection between these groups. This is mostly just rehashing old mainstream media talking points about Cville, etc. Now, maybe RAM and PF were somewhat connected as they share goals, but neither are connected to the CIA shill group azov.